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Post by A.G. on Sept 14, 2007 11:36:16 GMT -5
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Post by PhoenixSnake on Sept 14, 2007 12:08:54 GMT -5
I'm not a fps fan, so count me out. Couldn't get into halo. Just doesn't live up to how people have made out to be. Or at least how I've seen it.
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Post by A.G. on Sept 14, 2007 12:54:36 GMT -5
I can't believe that it will actually outsell Spiderman 3... that's big.
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Post by PhoenixSnake on Sept 14, 2007 17:12:33 GMT -5
It might. Fan boys loves their armored clad men.
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Post by anomaly on Sept 14, 2007 22:49:32 GMT -5
This game looks totally awesome. Shame Im not into FPS games either, if not I would've bought me 360 by now.
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Post by A.G. on Sept 14, 2007 22:54:36 GMT -5
Awesome? What exactly are you looking at to say that? The "innovative" concept of fighting aliens in an FPS? Or the character AI and movements inferior to the 2001 PS2 Sons of Liberty? What is the "awesome" part here? Please explain.
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Post by anomaly on Sept 14, 2007 23:01:05 GMT -5
God, here we go. Comparing it to MGS.
Never did I say it was "innovative".
Never did I say it was he AI was better than SoL.
Stop bringing up MGS, PLEASE.
Stop hating on HALO. It is overrrated, but it is a damn good game.
Go play your precious MGS now.
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Post by A.G. on Sept 14, 2007 23:37:17 GMT -5
Actually, you started arguing without fully understanding what I meant. As usual  You said the game looks awesome. I want to know why. Why is it a "damn good" game? As for my comparison to MGS2, it was merely to point out the technical problems I have with the Halo series. The human characters of the game look cheap, react rather stupid, and move very stiff and unrealistic. The point about MGS2 is that human character moved, acted, and looked more realistic on an inferior system 6 years ago. That's my problem with it. I mean really, the Marines in Halo 3 on an Xbox 360 move about as smoothely as the Genomes in MGS1 on the PSone! C'mon! Halo is the flagship of the Xbox and the Xbox 360. And yet I fail to see why. Conceptually it's stale. Visually it's rather cheap and primitive. So what's the big deal? What's the so "damn good" about it? I played Halo 2 and was amazed just how little the game was upgraded from Halo 1. I saw the trailers for Halo3 and it is embarrasing that it is the flagship of the Xbox 360. Please, explain it to me. Graphics? They are a joke. Gameplay? Nothing new. Story? Ha! I shall. And WTF is your problem? Another "there's too much MG talk on this MG forum" guy? LOL! And yes, here Metal Gear IS and always will be the center of the gaming universe! |
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Post by anomaly on Sept 15, 2007 0:37:48 GMT -5
Not fully understanding? What's there to understand? Your reply was nothing more than a stab at HALO by comparing it to SoL.
You're like one of those HALO fanboys who doesnt like MGS because their fanboyism is at its max.That said, I dont argue with fanboys like you, but I'll reply to this just cause I dont want you to get the idea that I have nothing else to say.
HALO 3 looks awesome to me. Why? Because I can look outside the MGS universe, and as a gamer (something you obviously arent, you've stated it multiple times video games dont even interest you anymore) I think it's a great achievement.
And sorry if other games dont play like your heavenly MGS games, but since when did MGS become the bar of which all games are measured? Please tell me that.
If you were a real gamer and got out of your comfort zone, you'd see there are other games that are a whole lot better than any MGS game.
What the hell is wrong with how they move? HALO isnt a game where you spend all the time looking at enemies move so you sneak past them, its a damn game where you blow the sh*t out of things. The game is about SHOOTING things and people, thats where the focus goes, so of course everything else is second on the list. Just how MGS4 get crappier and crappier after every new trailer, cause theyre focusing on story more than graphics. So who the hell cares how they walk or run, youre gonna be blowing them up anyways! Oh wait, you're the one who cares! Because to you, unless they move as good as MGS soldiers, they suck fail.
Thats exactly what a HALO fanboy would say about the MGS series. Its a matter of opinion, just because you dont like it doesnt mean it sucks. It just means YOU dont like it. But I dont see why you always have to degrade it.
I'll give you the gameplay part. But thats impossible to change. It's FPS series, they gotta play the same with just more extras. Graphics a joke? Please, MGS4 looks previous-gen compared to HALO 3. Story? Please, MGS's "stories" are as original and cliche as any. Even the WTF moments are cliche. Im not saying it's not good. God forbid you'll reply with another paragraph to that saying how good the story is. It is good, but it's not so original as the first MGS.
Quite frankly, I think you hate HALO 3 because of all the publicity and hype it gets. You've said multiple times, that you're sad MGS is getting shunned by the masses, and wish it would get as much hype as other games, like HALO 3. You're just mad that HALO is stealing the spotlight from MGS. Thats why you keep comparing both series, it gives you a sense of relief to know that MGS is better than HALO. They're TOTALLY different series, created by different people, aimed at different people. Yet you always feel the need to compare them.
It just saddens me and pisses me off that you write off any other game 'cause you're not a real gamer and wont get your ass out of your MGS comfort zone to see things from other people's perspectives.
I can see why MGS is good and I agree it's awesome. But Im not an ignorant person, I can see its flaws and can see MGS is not the best series out there. I can both praise and diss MGS, unlike fanboys like you. THATS what makes me see HALO 3 as a great game. Because I look at things from both sides. Because I dont compare it to other UNRELATED series like MGS. I can compare it to other games like Killzone and Gears of Wars. But MGS? Wtf, that's like comparing US comics to Japanese manga and saying one is better JUST because you hate the other. Thats what you do, you praise MGS as being the best out of the two just because you hate HALO. Thats just sad.
Im done. There;s nothing I can say that will ever make you see things my way anyways, so I have nothing else to tell you on this matter. And I will never see things your way, thank God 'cause I dont want to ever think the way fanboys think.
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They did it for great justice!
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Post by Black Snake on Sept 15, 2007 2:42:58 GMT -5
Wall of text strikes for critical hit of 9,000 damage! (please, lighten the f...ck up anomaly.  ) |
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Post by -ANTH- on Sept 15, 2007 6:39:42 GMT -5
Halo is fun multiplayer.  I had the PC version of HALO and played it online all the time. |
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Post by PhoenixSnake on Sept 15, 2007 9:48:31 GMT -5
Maybe people love Halo for it homosexual undertones.
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They did it for great justice!
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Post by Black Snake on Sept 15, 2007 12:28:30 GMT -5
You had the PC version of Halo? I still play that online when I'm really bored.
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Post by A.G. on Sept 15, 2007 13:07:35 GMT -5
The fact remains, Anamoly, you still haven't stated ANYTHING to show me why Halo 3 is a good game. You blather on about fanboism and me not knowing other games... What the f...ck does that have anything to do with what I said about Halo 3? I don't need to go out and play a whole bunch of games to personally see the flaws of Halo. I played Halo 1. I played Halo 2. I've seen the trailers of Halo 3. That's what I'm talking about. So all your trash talking about my lack of knowledge outside the MG series is completely irrelivant. Since pretty much MGS2. I'm talking about the technical issues of game design. The attention to details and the crafsmenship of everything that is in the game. If a next gen console fails to accomplish what was done on a previous generation over a half a decade earlier, that's f...cking sad! Further more, I don't get why you are shocked by my preference of MG and comparing everything to it. I did build a site to the series. Probably wouldn't have done that if I didn't think it was the best... d'uh! You know what, f...ck YOU! I don't need to play other games to give my opinions on Halo! I've played everthing the Halo series has offered thus far and see all the previews of the current product. And that's what this topic is about, ass! When have I "written off" other games? Huh? I talk about Halo because I know the series just as well as I know Metal Gear. And who the f...ck are you to tell me that I can't?!  Yeah, you're f...cking right on that one! I'll never f...cking praise a game without being able to do so much as discuss why it's any good! You point out that I'm talking like a generic fanboy? Well you sound like the generic dumbass with a low attention spend! "Der.... I like Halo 'cause it's awesome! Awesome game!" f...ck you anamoly! You just made the dumbest argument I have ever seen! "Der, how dare you compare two series that you have played and know well?!" And yes, they are different games. But that does NOT mean they don't have things to compare: 1. Plot 2. Attention to detail 3. Overall graphics 4. Interactivity with the surrounding area 5. AI 6. Improvements from one installment to the next That's just off the top of my head. There are generic comparisons that can be made. And BTW, I'm still waiting for you tell me why Halo 3 is an "awesome game"! Really? Then I guess you missed all those topics I had about the flaws in each game. Yeah... I never discuss those. You talk about not being ignorant, well you sure are f...cking clueless! And you obviously don't know sh*t about me! And I resent having you make direct insults against me base on my critisims of a game. And f...ck, have you even played both of the Halo games? Or are you just that f...cking good that you can "appreciate" them without playing? |
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Post by daniel on Sept 15, 2007 14:09:41 GMT -5
It merely started with Anomaly saying that Halo 3 looks totally awesome. Then, yeah AG asks why he thinks it's awesome, but then he's questioning whether it is due to inferior aspects to MGS2.
AG, if you mainly wanted to know what was awesome about Halo 3, you really shouldn't have included all those questions where you compare MGS2 to it. And if you don't find what he finds awesome, you shouldn't worry. It's just his oppinion. Everybody has their own oppinion. You're just making him indirectly see no good in Halo (especially with your confusion on what is awesome on Halo compared to MGS). You gotta understand that if he finds it good, leave it at that. Or, in this case, if you want to know what he finds awesome, just ask it.
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