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Post by shadowf0x on May 6, 2008 10:23:33 GMT -5
Well someone had to do it, and I guess that someone is ME. POLITICS!!!!  WWW.INFOWARS.COMGoogle the videos Youtube the videos See this stuff for yourself people, its reality. I dont mean to be a fear monger but truthfully what can I say this sh*t is really going on. The topic im about to bring up is extremely serious actually it should come to everyone's attention, if this topic heats up then i'll start a thread solely commited to the discussion of this very very important issue. As some of you MIGHT NOT KNOW. In 2005 then (And Cernex you might know this actually) President Vincente Fox of Mexico, Prime Minister of Canada (I dont know his name to lazy to look it up) and our very own President George W. Bush, signed a treaty to organize the beggining of the NORTH AMERICAN UNION (Modeled directly after the EUROPEAN UNION) this is turn will unite Canada, Mexico, and the United States as one country...YES THATS RIGHT. PEOPLE this is real, I mean can you believe something like this? well its happening, because on April 18 I believe of this year the U.S and Canada, just signed a formal agreement issuing the permission for either country to enter the other's if their is a national catastrophe.....such as, natural disasters, policing actions, or better said MARTIAL LAW. Yes if Martial law was declared we would be seeing Canadian troops ON OUR SOIL, possibly Mexican troops as well. People people people...I was stunned at this revelation, everything in the chapter of Revelations in the bible, certain passages in the Quran (Such as Surah 1:9) and the Torah, are coming true. Again I dont mean to be a fear monger, but it seems as when the new millenium began WHICH WAS REALLY IN 2001 not 2000, the beggining of the end really was initiated on 9/11. Tell me people how do you feel about this occurence? What can we do about it, you'd be surprised that we can do something about this issue. We need to ban together, if the time comes for Martial Law, which seems to indicate it will be soon then I suggest you all buy your firearms excercise your Second amendment right as an American citizen, sh*t I have. Sorry Cernex, you're in Mexico....I know firearms are illegal in your country....if you need me to swing your way though and drop you off a couple toys, ill be in San Diego soon... NAH JUST KIDDING...You need to come over here to me..anyway. Nah im joking again, OK OK ALL JOKING ASIDE. Id like to hear your comments people please post. P.S= Oh and I will be posting more websites that should be of interest to those who are interested, concerning issues about our f...cked up judicial system, the fact that very soon jury's will be wiped off the standard operating procedure in this countries court systems, Kangaroo courts, border control, F.E.M.A camps people, and most importantly the C.F.R and the Federal Reserve System. I hope ive sparked some interest concerning your REAL CIVIL LIBERTY and that you read people turn off your game consoles, turn off your television sets and READ. |
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Post by A.G. on May 6, 2008 10:37:35 GMT -5
First I hear of this. I don't believe it. If this was real, there would be an INSANE level of media coverage DAILY! There would be protests and mass hysteria. I'm not seeing any of that.
US isn't going to JOIN with Mexico and Canada... Might take both of them over at some point though ;D
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Post by The Mad Jackyl on May 6, 2008 13:30:47 GMT -5
I've heard inklings of something called the 'Amero', which is a currency standard modeled in the same vein as the Euro, that is supposedly being minted in Colorado already.
Ninja Edit: Be careful of putting much weight in to the things that Alex Jones says, sure, he thinks outside the box, but often times he sees things outside that box that aren't actually there and tends to believe them wholeheartedly over any official truth, no matter how ridiculous. The guy's somewhat of a hack.
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Post by A.G. on May 6, 2008 13:43:29 GMT -5
It would make sense for a unified currency though. But I don't think you'll see counries merging.
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Post by Black Snake on May 6, 2008 23:25:23 GMT -5
I've heard about it.This was mentioned in Zeitgeist, a movie about the NWO conspiracy theory. I don't believe any of it at all to be honest. Some economic problems are foreseeable, I guess, but I cant really take the NAU seriously. I like how the website has these ads on the very bottom:  |
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Post by shadowf0x on May 7, 2008 16:02:41 GMT -5
First I hear of this. I don't believe it. If this was real, there would be an INSANE level of media coverage DAILY! There would be protests and mass hysteria. I'm not seeing any of that. US isn't going to JOIN with Mexico and Canada... Might take both of them over at some point though ;D It was reported on one broadcast news network and that was surprisingly on CNN, but on Lou Dobbs, who is probably the ONLY honest reporter on that show, and this was back in 2005 when it first happened. And it came out in a few of the major newspapers I believe the New York Times and the Washington Post, but also only mentioned briefly, its made headlines in all the Independent newspapers though. This is something that The Government, doesnt want you to know up until the last minute, it benefits them. Yes Jackyl, apparently you know something about it, the "Amero" will replace all currency in North America, ofcourse once this union is complete. You guys can sit back and doubt this and that and whatever else the fact is this is biblical. Think about it this goes waaaaaaaay beyond f...ckin coincedence man. One World Government is inevitable all analysts dating back to the 50's said this, and the richest bankers and CEO's like Henry Ford were saying this in the 1920 and 30's!!!!!!! Guys in Hitler and Stalin's time they got away with everything they did because information was easier to control, lets face it the World has become a smaller place thanks to the internet and so forth and information can get around practically instantly. One of my favorite rappers who is also an activist unlike most rappers today who are total bullsh*t said this in one of his songs. "You think Illuminati is just a f...ckin conspiracy theory? thats why conservative racists are all running sh*t!" and its true man. oh BTW that was Immortal Technique, some of you might have heard of him, check him out on YouTube and so forth. Anyway like the old saying "Banker's run the world" except that its f...ckin true the Federal Reserve, since 1913 has put its plans into place and has destroyed the American way of life, you're only free because you arent a threat to the U.S Government, sh*t the IRS both these federal entities are illegal except that have entrenched themselves so deep into the fabric of this country that the only real way to get them out is by the sword, or in these days better said by the gun. Sad but true, even though our founding fathers were all part of secret society's they way this pictured this nation I can guarantee you was not to become the way it has. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson the big three are most likely rolling in their graves seeing as how this country has taken such a f...cked direction. Just like on Alex Jones' website "Why do you think Hitler and Stalin preffered gun control?" it was easy to police the population and control them through fear regardless of prominent Nazi's or Politburo members, they all feared their leaders instead of loved them. Black Snake.....geez where do I start with you, Alex Jones might be insane because he see's what is going on with this country, who wouldnt be if they found out the truth about what was going on? Go on YouTube, and watch this movie even if it is by sections. Aaron Russo's America:Freedom to Fascism. Dude none of this stuff is made up man, it is reality. You know why you dont believe any of that stuff you say? Because you are living comfortably in your home thinking that you control your life, when in fact man you dont regardless of chance lets say murder, a car accident etc. Someone behind a desk at the U.N headquaters is really and truly running your life. Stop being sheep everyone....Do you honestly believe that some (I dont mean to be racist with this statement I want to make a point) anyway do you believe that some ragheads who live in f...ckin caves for a living really planned the attacks of 9/11? That our big bad C.I.A never got a whiff of what was going on, that the N.S.A!!! didnt catch anything through signals analysis....THAT THE F.B.I, DIDNT GET A HINT WHEN ABOUT THE INFILTRATION OF ENEMY COMBATANTS (TERROISTS?) I mean they did during WW2 and that was f...ckin more than 60 years ago man. Im gonna make another post and explain to you all something about my actual homeland because even though I was born in this country both my parents are from different coutries, Panama and Cuba, both countries which have a LONG LONG history with the United States, and it goes back more than a hundred years. |
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Post by shadowf0x on May 7, 2008 16:22:33 GMT -5
Panama as you know broke off from Columbia, at the turn of the last century the French moved in seeing it as an opportunity to somewhat colonize the new nation even though they became sovereign because of the break off, well the French were the first to motivate the Panamanian's to begin building the now famous Panama Canal, well the French gave up due to the hardships and all and they left. Well Teddy Roosevelt moved in and rounded up support from the people to finally go ahead despite the hardships and complete the construction of the canal. Well the U.S behind the scenes actually before the French moved in for whatever reasons their politics were back in those times they sponsored a war between Costa Rica and Panama, Costa Rica won the disputed territory and the U.S came in as "peacekeepers" in support of Panama, so that they could win favor with the new government, thats why it was so easy for Teddy Roosevelt to come in and rally the people because back then they had a good image of the American's....easy pickings. Well lets fast forward about 80 years or so and the C.I.A sponsors the rise of the real Manuel Noriega, no not Rick Ross people (For anyone who knows his debut song "Hustlin") anyway Noriega, throughout the 80's terrorized the people of Panama, into submission and allowed for BILLIONS OF DOLLARS worth of Cocaine, to be shipped through Panama, thanks to a well-known legendary figure in the Narco-trafficking world knnown as PABLO ESCOBAR. Well when Noriega, finally saw that he was getting the short end of the stick he said "f...ck YOU U.S.A and C.I.A, GET THE f...ck OUT" so back then President George H.W Bush, had Noriega, knocked off from power....but hmmm even though Noriega, was extradited to the U.S, and faced about 16 years or so in prison he didnt squeel on the U.S, about what they were really doing in the country. Thats why Noriega, got special treatment at a Florida federal penetentiary because he had major dirt on the C.I.A. Now to this day Noriega, gets special treatment from this government because he was released just last year and instead of being extradited to France, for Money laundering charges during his time in power, he was sent back to Panama with the blessing of the U.S government, and now as far as I know that man is living in relative peace...... Dont even let me f...ckin start with Cuba, dont worry ya'll I'll spare you all the history lesson. Let me tell you this though the U.S has had involvement in Cuba for more than 120 years and thats all i'll say. Now everybody remember the Iran-Contra scandal? OFCOURSE YOU DONT WE WERE ALL EITHER BABIES OR STILL HADNT EVEN BEEN CONCEIVED YET!!! And thats the attitude this country's government takes...since it didnt happen in our time or waaaaaay to friggin long ago why should we care? BUT the fact is that it really only happened 20 or so years ago not that long ago by any means....This system and the corporations who have taken power in the facade of "our government" has taken its roots and wont budge unless people like you and me do something. "The tree of liberty must be renewed with the blood of tyrants.....and patriots"- Thomas Jefferson. People its been long overdue George Washington himself was quoted to have said, a country must undergo another revolution every 100 years....well its been way overdue everyone and believe me its coming soon. Whether it be a revolution by the people or with the U.S government declaring martial law either way...IT HAS TO HAPPEN. History has shown us that. So stop f...cking fooling yourself everyone, become more politically motivated. Excercise your second amendment rights as well and buy yourself a nice gun. Personally i'll suggest if you get a handgun get something no smaller than a .45, if its an assault rifle get an AK-47 (You all know the star status this weapon has) preferably Bulgarian or Russian, but if you're cheap...then Romanian or Hungarian models would do just fine. People people people...you are all my country men....(EXCEPT CERNEX, LOL) fight for your rights..Do you even know what your rights are? I bet you dont read the declaration of independence AND I MEAN READ IT MEMORIZE IT and read the bill of rights people. Oh and when the North American Union does come to fruition, well then Cernex only then I can say "BUEN BENIDOS A LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS AMIGO!!!" hahaha, ok so I like to joke alot when im trying to make a point but I know you all understand. |
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Post by Black Snake on May 7, 2008 17:33:21 GMT -5
This is the statement that pisses me off. Biased movies made without proper research aren't going to make me believe that some guy working for the government is making all of my decisions for me. No one makes my decisions but me. And don't say "BUT THATS WAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK LOL" because if they don't want their perfect plan to backfire then why don't they stop movies like From Freedom to Fascism or Zeitgeist from being spread across the internet? Are you implying that our government fully planned, facilitated, and staged the terrorist attack on the Twin Towers? If so, then I direct you here Why? Are we going to be shooting guns at our neighbors in the near future? The second amendment declares that a well-regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state, therefore infringment of the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be prohibited. So I have to keep a gun in my home because one day some one is going to walk in my door and say, "I'm a threat to the well-being of this country", so I'll just get my gun and shoot him? It's "buenvenidos". Look, I'm not trying to come off as an a-hole. Everyone has different opinions on things. That's why we post on a forum. Yes, sh*t is going to get a whole lot rougher in a couple of years, but I'm not believing a bunch of insane crap like that.
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Post by shadowf0x on May 8, 2008 10:30:38 GMT -5
"Are you implying that our government fully planned, facilitated, and staged the terrorist attack on the Twin Towers? If so, then I direct you here"-Black Snake
False flag terrorism has been initiated by various Government's around the world for centuries.
Adolf Hitler, used the burning of the Reichstag, which he and his Brown shirt's organized to scare the German people into submission and he was able to blame Communist insurgents that it was their fault and it was the beggining of his rise to power.
Back in the 1960's the C.I.A, thought up of a plan to have a full-scale U.S invasion of Cuba, by training guerillas posing as Communist terrorists by wreacking havok on the public in major U.S cities so it would be an excuse to invade Cuba on a major scale, you know they were always embarrased about the Bay of Pigs, disaster except that then President John F. Kennedy said no to the plan. Its all there in paper man "Freedom of information act" buddy.
I can go on all day and go back as far as 400 years ago with government's using false flag terrorism and other means so that they had an excuse to implement their agendas.
"This is the statement that pisses me off. Biased movies made without proper research aren't going to make me believe that some guy working for the government is making all of my decisions for me. No one makes my decisions but me. And don't say "BUT THATS WAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK LOL" because if they don't want their perfect plan to backfire then why don't they stop movies like From Freedom to Fascism or Zeitgeist from being spread across the internet?"-Black Snake
We live in the information age thanks to the internet we have the ability to trade information almost instantly....Do you think something like Arsenal Gear and the G.W are made up? in that form yes, but just recently about a few years ago there was a Pentagon operation that was uncovered thanks to Journalists in the New York Times, and other major syndicated papers who back then werent owned by major corporations came out with the story. Its called Echelon, you might have heard about it. Its a massive computer system that stretches from here to Australia, the data base is immense and the information they have gathered has been tremendous, god knows what it is they know about ANY of us...well atleast we arent important enough for them so I guess were under the radar for the moment, but who knows what it is they have gathered man.
Why? Are we going to be shooting guns at our neighbors in the near future? The second amendment declares that a well-regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state, therefore infringment of the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be prohibited. So I have to keep a gun in my home because one day some one is going to walk in my door and say, "I'm a threat to the well-being of this country", so I'll just get my gun and shoot him?-Black Snake
Funny you mention that. Just a few years ago there was an inside meeting of the big wigs in the F.B.I, they have been interviewing former Stasi, members as to how their operations worked back when East Germany, and the U.S.S.R was still around. Documents were leaked thankfully and now we know that the F.B.I, openly or not now seeks to become a Stasi like organization. For those of you who dont know the Stasi, were
EastGerman secret police back in those days. You didnt know who they were they could be your friend, some random person on the street sh*t even your kids...(And its been very well- proven that that was the case even family members ratted eachother out which is incredible)
I know its hard to have that type of mentality Black Snake, we have been raised to be overall law-obiding good citizens but reality teaches us otherwise sadly there are those who dont care for you and want what you have shed sweat and tears for man and they'll take it when they get the chance especially if you dont have sh*t to defend yourself. Unless you f...ckin know Wu-Shu-rei or something anyway. Man im not making any of this up you've got the internet obviously look it up. And that link you gave me to that story whatever ofcourse there are going to be mishaps sometimes big News Organizations who are in line with this government put on nuts on their shows to discredit the actual truth seekers which convinces people like you to not believe whats really going on. There are coincidences yes (Very f...ckin rarely) I never believed that thing about the 20 dollar bill either I know its stupid. You'd be surprised though how things come to fruition after a long line of thinking and making decisions.
Now the big three candidates that the media have chosen for us McCain, Obama, and Hillary, all members of the CFR and who (secretly) support the I.R.S and the Federal Reserve, Why do you think JFK, was really assassinated? He was the first and it seems only President, who started to turn the wheels to take down the IRS, and Federal Reserve and then he so happens to have been killed....sadly the last president who was really and truly going to fight for the now and almost gone Middle Class.
..ohh vote for a candidate who vouches to take down the Federal Reserve like Ron Paul...one of the last few honest candidates, the Elite dont control everything yet there are some events worldwide that are still out of their grasp so its slowed down their ascent to complete and total power there is time to stop them if we band together. Thats the thing man MOST not all American's have become f...ckin spoiled....oil, electricity, even food which is now BEING f...ckIN RATIONED BUDDY you cant say otherwise on that subject, but the rest of America, who is to cowardly to do anything has to grow some f...cking balls yes women included to make a stand and say "NO MORE" seriously.
It's "buenvenidos".
Look, I'm not trying to come off as an a-hole. Everyone has different opinions on things. That's why we post on a forum. Yes, sh*t is going to get a whole lot rougher in a couple of years, but I'm not believing a bunch of insane crap like that.-Black Snake
How could I be angry at you I dont take things to heart man seriously, or hate you if we have the same oppressors seriously, certain things ill argue ofcourse but ill never ever take it to heart and im not just saying that because its over a computer screen I dont know you personally neither do you know me like that but (I am somewhat religious) you are my brother even if you have a different mother im trying to make you realize we are simple men but there are those who conspire to destroy my way of life as yours as well. Im trying to open up your mind but your being stubborn, thats all fair and well but well I might be a little stubborn sounding a bit here man you will see. You will see. And I will feel sorry for all of us who are stuck here on this f...ckin rock when things literally go to HELL. It might not be the end of the world just yet no not in our time but were living in the beggining of the end and there's no arguing there.....
Oh BTW thanks for correcting me on my spanish man, I dont nearly get the opportunity anymore to speak my second language and write it and practice it and whatnot. Its a shame but thats another story. Oh...and thanks for reading all my stuff and atleast debating with me in a sense, you get my respect not my hate even if I dont convince you otherwise. Thats fine, atleast our way of life hasnt been completely taken away from us and we are still somewhat free.
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Post by Black Snake on May 8, 2008 17:15:16 GMT -5
Something I agree with you on. Pick one of the three candidates with nearly the same tax agenda, and kick Ron Paul into the dirt for trying to take on the Federal Reserve. Yeah, no prob. That's really the purpose of forums, I guess. EDIT: Figured out today that it's actually bienvenidos while I was typing a script for an oral project, so I guess we're both wrong.  |
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Post by trustburger on May 14, 2008 18:41:12 GMT -5
LOL, NWO.
alex jones is a joke. he posted that obama started a bill to have the un tax us to send moneys to africa. clicking the source link revealed that it was simply another relief fund for africans, had nothing to do with the un. the mn makes so many conclusions out of his a$$ that hes prolly already sh*t his organs out.
also, btw, u mention that illuminati are conservative racists rite? guess what--jones is a conservative and a racist. so am i, but thats besides the point. he thinks theres a clearcut def of an "american" just like how the kkk thought there was. im a racist but i dont bug ppl unless they bug me.
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Post by shadowf0x on May 15, 2008 20:47:02 GMT -5
How would Alex Jones get the support and backing he does from national bodies if he was a racist? And what makes him a conservative if he is against the agenda.
I dont know much about that relief fund to Africa, but lets see how many relief funds have been made over the decades to that continent and has it made a difference? And most relief funds if not all go through the U.N for approval to begin with because that is where the African, nations who are receiving the help go to meet and agree on how the money is going to be distributed that way there can be no corruption even though there always is. Get me a link to that story if you dont mind, i'll look around for it myself but if I dont find it then i'll post I didnt find it.
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Post by trustburger on May 15, 2008 22:41:49 GMT -5
lol oh gawd ok. first off, lots of racists get support. pat buchanan, for example, gets tons of support despite his hxc xenophobia ie: go home juan. dont u kno that most conspiracists beLIEve that all this israel support and civil rights is helping zionist causes blah blah? i mean i dont approve of wut israel does often but im not going to jump to a conclusion that mlk was supported by zionist jews to topple the white american government. lol. lern 2 research alex jones btw. like what he believes america should be. like i said im racist too but im a true libertarian i dont bug anyone unless they bug me. jones insits that america stay a cookie cutter white bread whatever he feels comfortable enough with. also, are u effing kidding? LIBERALS ARE MORE PRONE TO UR NWO NONSENSE THAN CONSERVATIVES. conservatives are supposed to be against big government. look at ron paul. thats oldschool conservatism. jones is a conservative as well but on a different level. i consider jones to be a traditionalist while ron paul and i are libertarians. as for the african relief fund, first off, i highly diagree its africa they should take care of their own s*** my point was that jones took the story and made it sound like a heug deal when it was just obama trying to get the omghecaresboutafrica vote. www.infowars.com/?p=238 = alex jones' lulzy article about omg un tax do a google search on global povertyact it has nothing to do w/ un taxing us. i wood say that alex jones should stfu if he wants some of his credibility left but lol 2 laet. |
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Post by shadowf0x on May 23, 2008 16:03:56 GMT -5
The meanings change by the progression of time. I gotta admit though man you are right though dude. And even though I dont agree with Alex Jones, completely you cant deny there are issues he has hit right on the head.
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