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Post by TUSasquatch on Jul 17, 2008 2:55:19 GMT -5
Whine? Who's whining? Laughing is more like it. Either way, it's still complaining about something completely pointless to complain about. LOL... it's forum! Geez! I'm sure there's a real shortage of message boards out there, especially about MG. Right, so why are you guys making such a fuss about it? Thank GOD the guys at TUS finally gave you lonelyhearts a place to bond. So f...cking sweet I need another dentist visit! LOL what a joke! Maybe yours should be the only MG fansite then? I wasn't aware there was a monopoly on the concept. And narcissistic? How so? Well, lets be fair now; considering the amount of complaining you do about TUS and MGN on top of the fact that you either freak out at or blatantly ignore even the smallest hint of criticism at your own site, I'd say the label of "narcissist" isn't much of a stretch. You know... you're right! I'll should go slap a PayPal logo on my front page and try to cash in! Maybe I'll have my visitors pay for my E3 ticket! LOL! I'm not going to lash back at this, because it's clear that you don't really have a good understanding of what it takes to run a large scale website. Even low-level VPS plans can cost upwards of several hundred dollars, you know. Not everything can be run at Homestead, you know. Guess Nitroid wants to go to E3 again to conduct another "meaningful" interview! ;D (image)BTW, this is the 3rd time now that TUS has asked for money. I'm not sure about qualifying amounts, but TUS is a fansite that is cashing in on the Metal Gear name. You can coat it anyway you want, but it does boil down to that. FYI. Since I've been in many of these over the years, the more you argue this point the longer and less meaningful this topic will get. Not that I care, but just thought I'de give you the same "too serious" advise.  It's interesting that you automatically assume that TUS is out to rip people off, but in truth, that kind of attitude shouldn't be all too surprising, seeing as you actually photoshopped an image to make a point. Congratulations, you're an internet tough-guy. But seriously, if you had any experience as a web developer (apart from throwing a bunch of images onto a homestead free site), you might have a better appreciation for what it takes to run a site on a larger scale like TUS does. All I can really say at this point is that you need to take a class in database management and server-side web development very badly, because despite your ignorance on the subject, the level of arrogance you display to compensate for it is absolutely baffling. |
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Post by trustburger on Jul 17, 2008 5:41:52 GMT -5
so tusasquatch wen will tus be bought out by large scale website with tons of ads and no content AS IS USUAL LOLOLOL ill drop by to read sum copypasta news about mgs4 reviewed by zeropunctuation tl;dr too many cutscenes
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Post by Solid Boss on Jul 17, 2008 6:37:26 GMT -5
Well I knew I was right about them coming here. They call theirself this great place to hang out and sh*t. Yet, they have to come out of the woodwork like the cockroaches they are, attack the forum to spread "peace". They are the walmart of MG sites. They have a terrible community, horrible admis who think their god because they run a f...cking message board with no jobs. And they have to hold pledges because they cant afford 300 f...cking dollars which is hysterical. I guess we can expect yearly begging for money to simply post news from Famitsu and Junker. 300 well spent. You people are a disgrace to the MG fan society. Im sure your version 4 lite or whatever you call your beer named site will be the same litterbox of turd information we already know and offer the same sh*t you did since 2004 but with fan money backing it. You take the "Fan Legacy" and put it to a friggin fansite, 5th rate one at that. "Oh were big because we get stuff from Ryan Payton." You can have that faggot and all his future f...ckups of the MG series. And also, just to show the weirdos that donate and go to TUS. They kill themselves remember? I wouldnt want to be part of that sadistic cult community. All hail TUS!!  I do believe you need more...  Thats my peace, I know you will post your contradiciting were crusaders for MG fans bullsh*t, so shove it. |
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Post by trustburger on Jul 17, 2008 6:50:22 GMT -5
^ wtf? issues much lol everything u haet is a satanic cult and wal mart. gtfo.
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Post by Solid Boss on Jul 17, 2008 6:56:55 GMT -5
What the hell are YOU talking about?
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Post by A.G. on Jul 17, 2008 9:52:13 GMT -5
No it isn't. We're not complaining. Pointing out something stupid that others do isn't complaining. We're not. The topic was dead already and actually shifted more towards discussing other older sites. You brought it up and have pushed it into a 2-pager. A couple of posts about how stupid it is to beg for money for a fansite isn't a "big fuss". Did I every say my site should be the only one? Don't recall that. But please, by all means, keep making things up. It's really helping your case. I never complained once about TUS or MGN. I laugh at TUS trying to be anything more than a fansite. And I laugh at MGN because it never was and never will be anything more than a front page. Heck, it's not even the sites, it's the people. Leo Blake and Nitroid are a joke. That's my personal opinion and I think I'm allowed to express it. As for critisism about my site... I never argued with it. But will not invest money into MGF. As long as I don't do that I can't fix those "critisisms". See, MGF is a fansite, that's it. I never treat it as anything more than that. Why would you run a "large scale" fansite? What's the f...cking point? And as for me not knowing what I'm doing, MGF is the longest running Metal Gear site. It's only MGS fansite that has been operation for seven and a half years without ANY downtime. No other MG site can claim that, not even MGN. So save your petty critisisms. No kidding. But what I do is free, and it works well for me. I didn't say they are ripping people off. I said they are making money for their own personal gain (trying to play official web in pretend land) from a Metal Gear name. There is a difference! Now who's being too serius? What, can't take a joke? Nothing about that picture is inacurate you know. I would, but I have no interest in web development. I did an MG fansite because I like the series, not to become a web designer. I did it for fun, that's what fansites are for. I have NEVER said that MGF is cutting edge and the latest in web design. That's why your "critisism" means nothing to me. It's like taking a photograph. I'm not a proffessional photographer, nor planning on ever making a career out of it... but that doesn't mean I can't have a simple camera and poing and click when I want to. You see, it boils down to YOU taking this too seriously, not me. I could care less about TUS. The fact that I will point and laugh at how idiotic it looks when you guys try to be anything more than a fansite does not mean I care or "taking it seriously". What a joke!  |
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Post by TUSasquatch on Jul 17, 2008 11:51:36 GMT -5
No it isn't. We're not complaining. Pointing out something stupid that others do isn't complaining. Considering the frequency at which you bring it up, yes, it's complaining. You guys should just stop going to MGN and TUS if what they do bothers you that much. A couple of posts about how stupid it is to beg for money for a fansite isn't a "big fuss". You've always been fussy at larger sites for outshining your own and this is no different. Call it whatever you want, but hell, how many times have you trolled MGN to bitch about how much you dislike their methods? Enough said. Did I every say my site should be the only one? Don't recall that. But please, by all means, keep making things up. It's really helping your case. You may as well have said it, because what you were insinuating was that there wasn't a need for another MGS fansite like TUS. With how big their user base is, I'd say there's plenty of room for everyone. I never complained once about TUS or MGN. Haha, what? ^This is called complaining, you realize. They're a FANSITE and you are constantly getting your panties in a bunch over the both of them. Get over it, already. As for critisism about my site... I never argued with it. But will not invest money into MGF. As long as I don't do that I can't fix those "critisisms". See, MGF is a fansite, that's it. I never treat it as anything more than that. Okay, great. Maybe you should spend more time working on your own site and less time worrying about what other sites do, then. Why would you run a "large scale" fansite? What's the f...cking point? And as for me not knowing what I'm doing, MGF is the longest running Metal Gear site. It's only MGS fansite that has been operation for seven and a half years without ANY downtime. No other MG site can claim that, not even MGN. So save your petty critisisms. It isn't difficult in the least to to type up some information that everybody already knows and throw random images onto a free server. You have no real experience with advanced web management and as a result you've got a very closed-minded view towards what a fan site can be, so it's easy for you to criticize and hold yourself up on a pedestal for believing that what little you actually do here is an accomplishment. Guess what, I've been obeying the laws of gravity for years, since I was born. Give me a f...cking medal. No kidding. But what I do is free, and it works well for me. Again, great. I'm happy for you. Really. Now all you need to do is quit bitching about what everybody else around you does and focus on your own thing. You might actually create friendships between communities instead of burning bridges. I didn't say they are ripping people off. I said they are making money for their own personal gain (trying to play official web in pretend land) from a Metal Gear name. There is a difference! If people want to donate, they can. If they don't want to donate, they don't have to. There's a little thing called "personal responsibility" that you seem to be ignoring. Like you've already brought up, there are other fan sites. But if people are donating, then they obviously want TUS to be around, uncompromised by a lack of funding. That's the choice of the end user, not something forced upon them by TUS. Now who's being too serius? What, can't take a joke? Nothing about that picture is inacurate you know. It's just infuriating when you go out on a limb to complain about something and then immediately retreat back to "wtf dude, dont take it so seriously, lol" whenever somebody actually confronts you about it. This is why everybody at MGN hates it when you post, you know. I would, but I have no interest in web development. I did an MG fansite because I like the series, not to become a web designer. I did it for fun, that's what fansites are for. I have NEVER said that MGF is cutting edge and the latest in web design. That's why your "critisism" means nothing to me. It's like taking a photograph. I'm not a proffessional photographer, nor planning on ever making a career out of it... but that doesn't mean I can't have a simple camera and poing and click when I want to. Right so, to borrow your analogy for a second, you shouldn't expect not to be confronted when you, with your disposable camera, start criticizing professional photographers. I could care less about TUS. Then stop going there and bringing it up every time something annoys you, Jesus Christ. |
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Post by Solid Boss on Jul 17, 2008 12:09:00 GMT -5
Im the one who brought it up in the first place dumbass. If this place annoys YOU, why do you come here? If your all high and mighty what do you care what AG or anyone else thinks. If you think your doing the right thing what is the need to defend it then? The point of this thread was to point out you and your site are pathetic and coniving and abuse your status to make your visitors pay to basically see the site.
The ultimate question is, are you that broke to pool 300 bucks out of the 30 friggin writers and admins you got with you? We dont pay because we dont need to, we get by with what we got and we dont need to upscale the friggin disk space to accomodate all the same sh*t you see in other sites.
As I said, the rest of your society should of committed suicide like that Kuja. That whole ordeal was laughable.
EDIT and if you and MGN hate AG so much, why do you have to come here, spy, and try to get your point across to someone you hate? You know you wont get through, and your wrong inthe first place. If you made a thread about MGF at TUS, and AG went to defend it, HE would be wrong right? Even though youve done the same sh*t what 3 times already?
The series is over, and your out of the job. The rest of the milked series is all yours, enjoy your future Metal Gear Ac!ds and all that other fag Payton sh*t. This place started with Snake, and will live on with just Snake.
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Post by TUSasquatch on Jul 17, 2008 12:11:57 GMT -5
The ultimate question is, are you that broke to pool 300 bucks out of the 30 friggin writers and admins you got with you? We dont pay because we dont need to, we get by with what we got and we dont need to upscale the friggin disk space to accomodate all the same sh*t you see in other sites. Like I already said, even a decent VPS can cost upwards of several hundred. $300 alone isn't going to cover the cost, so they're obviously already going out of pocket. WOW YOU'RE COOL Who even says something like that? |
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Post by Solid Boss on Jul 17, 2008 12:19:55 GMT -5
The point of a fansite is to provide to the visitor, not the visitor provide funds to see the provided material. You need a entry fee? f...ck that, because thats basically what it is. And when the time runs out again, are you begging again? Even 700 dollars is laughable, even with all you people on the site.
Answer my question, WHY do you come here and start this bullsh*t in the first place?
"Considering the frequency at which you bring it up, yes, it's complaining. You guys should just stop going to MGN and TUS if what they do bothers you that much."
Arent you contradicting yourself? YOU COME HERE since it bothers you that people actually dont like your site.
"WOW YOU'RE COOL
Who even says something like that?"
Who even commits suicide and documents doing it on a MG site?
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Post by A.G. on Jul 17, 2008 13:01:18 GMT -5
I bring it up? Did you not notice that I did not start the topic? And umm... I'll say whatever I want to say on my forum. I don't much care if you have a problem with that. Deal with it. LOL! I don't know why you say that. I don't believe I have EVER said that MGF can't be "outshined". LOL! It's a free fansite with a rather limited amount of resources. It's not that hard to outshine it. Get your facts straight, goof. I absolutely LOVE the mythology of MGN. That's why I love giving them a hard time. MGN has never been anything more than a front page, even at it's peak. Yet, for the last 8 years, the goofs on that board get all excited about the upcomming (but never realized) "updates". The loop they run in amuses me greatly. Leo promises sh*t, they get happy, then he doesn't deliver and leaves. Repeat! LOL It amuses me. I agree. I do like that you conviniently ommitted the part where I comlimented their media section and praised that as a great step in the right direction. But hey, that wouldn't click with the rest of the argument so you brushed that FACT aside. Typical ass. You are a dense one... Let me clear it up with an example. I think you are a joke and I laugh at your efforts in this topic. Now, that's not "complaining". That's me pointing a finger at your future 40-year old virgin face and LAUGHING. Same applies to what I say about TUS and MGN. Hope that clears it up for ya. I could do that... but hey, where's the fun in that. If I feel the need to talk some smack, I shall. You know, the whold freedom of speech thing.  And yet nobody else has gone the distance... hmm.. maybe it's not that easy, eh? Goof! It's easy because I know that what you do is POINTLESS. I don't need to know about web management you speak of because ALL OF THIS... it's nothing more than a hobby. It's not my life. I don't live it like the goofs on your site. When you move out of your mom's basement and get a job, you MAY realize just how little a fansite means in the grand scope of things. And yes, I can make a job comment because you goofs struggle to come up with a lousy $300! Biggest MG community on the web my ass! Buncha stupid kids... Yeah... and then we can all talk about Metal Gear together! That would just be f...cking awesome! Dude, you can't begin to imagine how little I think of that. Again, when you get anything resembling a real life you'll get what I'm talking about. Makes no difference! The money is being used by the owners of a fansite. The fansite's popularity is due to the Metal Gear name. They are being given money for using the Metal Gear name. Facts are facts. Wow... now I know you're dense. Who's retreating? I stand by EVERYTHING I said. You are the one that took what I said and the picture seriously. So my question to you was, why? Why are you taking something like this seriously? That doesn't mean I'm retreating or trying to play it off as "I didn't mean it". I mean what I say. TUS isn't the "proffessionals" you speak of. Do they work for Konami? No. Then they are not. Further more, the argument here isn't their quality of "photographing" but their actions. Am I putting down the system/programs/desings they used? No. Get your sh*t together before tackling analogies. I didn't bring it up. Did you notice who started the thread? Man... you are one dumb mother f...cker...  Look dude, you are off base here. There is a big difference between what is said about TUS and MGN and what you say about MGF. Nobody is putting down the technical achievements of either site, I never have. It's always been conceptual. You go after MGF on points that can't be fixed because conceptually I need not MGF to move further. MGF is what I wanted it to be, an information guide (and it's far more informative then TUS or MGN have EVER been or will be). So the situations aren't the same. But you know what, I welcome this. You got a problem with me, by all means... let's discuss. But stay on topic and don't branch off into things that aren't a part of the disussion. |
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Post by A.G. on Jul 17, 2008 13:11:19 GMT -5
One other thing I wanted to add. You talk about making "friends" with other communities. Given EVERYTHING, are you honestly saying that I should make friends with TUS and MGN? You REALLY believe in that?
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Post by lueluxacky on Jul 17, 2008 13:58:41 GMT -5
Just wanna say one thing in this wonderful thread. Trolling a site you dont like AT ALL so you can hate on it (and this directed not to a specific person here, but everyone) is pretty much immature, stupid, pathetic, and is a sign of being afraid of one's self image that you go and look at other sites to laugh at them in order to make yourself feel better.
Sad lives you guys lead. Arguing over something so trivial and unimportant. Go play some football or something to relieve some stress, rather than hating on other people's work.
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Post by A.G. on Jul 17, 2008 14:09:34 GMT -5
I don't think there was any "hate" to start with. I think it was more like laughing at now the 3rd time they are asking for money. But, as usual, topics like will get heated and out of hand.
Nothing out of the ordinary.
Did you read all the posts thus far? That's kinda what the argument ended up being about. ;D
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Post by The Mad Jackyl on Jul 17, 2008 20:21:11 GMT -5
This topic looks like too much fun.
tusasquatch wrote:
Loving this simile. I'm smiling thinking of all these hero-worshiping fans who absolutely adulate the site and celebrate the owners as the true artists and auteurs that they probably consider themselves. I mean, those guys are Metal Gear Fansite celebrities! Really big deals! True internet royalty. I don't know if you're a fan of the games or a fan of the site. Also, I don't know if you're directly involved with running things over there. Are you? If you applied half the pride you hold in that site's professionalism towards your own personal sense of professionalism, you could feasibly afford the bandwidth bill in time. But it's more fun playing the role of starving artist and suffer for your art because it shows just how serious you are about Metal Gear and you love to show people that, I guess. TUS is a hipster site, a cool kid who wants to be seen and many of the hardcore users of the site have the dedication of a sycophant who at times (note that I don't mean always) has such a love for their sense of belonging there, that the site and what it stands for is often paramount even to the MG series itself. But like the cool kid who hangs out on the corner all day pretending, they won't feel the slightest bit of bashfulness in letting you know how awesome they are by proudly brandishing their favorite obscure band's t-shirt so that they seem cooler by association. I've seen the attitudes of some of the 'hardcore fan' users over there and they seem to enjoy giving each other congratulatory handjobs and patting each other on the back for a job well done. You guys are just so much more of a Metal Gear fan than everybody else and in your mind's eye, your professional approach to fandom serves the purpose of proving your own self-perpetuated thesis. Feel better about yourself now.
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