Battle of the Batmans

[A.G.]

First, a GREAT video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSkSDNl1w4E

Love the Keaton smile when he sets Bale on fire! ;D

Anyway, who is your favorite Batman? I would say that Bale is the best Bruce Wayne so far. But I still would say Keaton is my favorite Batman. Kilmer was pretty good as both, Bruce and Batman. Clooney just didn't belong... at all...

PS. I'm not including Adam West in this because... well... he's not Batman. THIS is NOT Batman! www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7dHbUOAqMo&feature=related

[cernex]

Keaton= Best Batman in ages. Simple as that. HOWEVER, he just WASN'T Bruce Wayne at all. I mean, I don't have to say much: there's a scene in Batman 1 were neither Vicky Vale or "that other news guy" identify him as Wayne. And that my friends, isn't supposed to happen. At all.

His Batman IS still Batman. The face, the expression, the SUBTLE voice change (not like OTHER Batmans that overdo it), the behavior. If only he was a little bit more muscular and tall, he would had been PERFECT.

(There is an urban legend, actually, that when Keaton rises the quite tall Nicholson with his hands, Keaton was actually standing on a block, and Nicholson was just standing normally, for example)

Kilmer = Mixed bag. His Bruce Wayne, all and all, what was it was supposed to be: cold, calculating billionare with a "James-Bond-esque" sophistication. If you ask me, Kilmer was THE ONLY ACTOR from all the series that got the Bruce Wayne bit RIGHT. However, his Batman came off as somewhat dull, if you ask me, though he did carried an impressive physique (something no other Batman had at the time. And, for the "old" series, was the only one who did), I think the movie's script and direction made what could had been a definite Batman (because Kilmer is one hell of an actor. Just watch "The Doors", ) into a watered down performance.

Clooney= The smiling Batman. Was perhaps the most sophisticated Bruce Wayne around (being as positive as I can) and carried "some" charisma that, from time to time, the Bruce Wayne from the comics has been said to carry (not all the time. Depends on the writer). However, his Batman , EVEN without the horrible script and the Bat-nipples, was just HORRIBLE. For some seconds, you actually see NOTHING on his face= not the craziness and consumption (by his own madness) that Keaton had, nor the cold and calculating aspects of the character that Kilmer had. Clooney had... nothing at all.

The script, all and all, didn't helped either. However, I like to think that, even if you had grabbed Clooney for, say, Batman 1 or "Begins", his Batman performance would had still been awfull.

Bale= An actor that tries too hard to be good in both characters (Batman and Wayne), and just constantly comes out short in both without being bad. The problem with his Batman is the voice and some of his fighting moves (FOR ME, that second one), plus the fact that it looks like most of the time he is FAKING that look in his face, which isn't SUPPOSE to happen. I mean, look at Keaton.

His Wayne is good, but it's far too insecure and looks phony too.

I mean, don't get me wrong. Bale is, positively, the best Batman we could had gotten for this new series (though I still think re-casting Kilmer wouldn't had been a bad idea: imagine what Kilmer would had done with a GOOD script), and it's probably the best all-around Batman since Keaton. But when people come to me saying he is the best Batman ever, I just die a little inside.

[A.G.]

Agree 100%. That's a first, huh?

[cernex]

Actually, yeah, I think it is a first. Topic should be saved for posterity, xD

Now, if only lulx-whatever could come and make some drama...

[lueluxacky]

Aug 4, 2008 13:25:24 GMT -5 cernex said:

Now, if only lulx-whatever could come and make some drama...

What's taht suppose to mean? <_<

And Bale>>all (except Kevin Conroy)
Just my personal opinion and no I dont have to explain it so get the hell over it.

[A.G.]

Bale is great a Bruce, but he just doesn't measure up in the suit. And it all comes down to the voice. Hell, there is even an article about that:

www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/04/mondaymoviebuzz.darkknight.ap/index.html

I cringe when I hear him talk as Batman. It's so forced and fake. Keaton wasn't really much as Bruce, but his Batman was perfect. Yes, I'll agree that Conroy IS the voice of Batman, in terms of live action it's Keaton.

[cernex]

Also, something else I discovered.

Although there hasn't been any movie were 2 Batman's actors or villains appear together (the only exception being Danny DeVito and Schwarzenegger, which appear together in 2 movies), for example, Val Kilmer and Uma Thurman, Keaton and Carrey, and so on (and so on), there are 2 movies that are pretty special in this sense:

1) "The Missing" also known as "4-Faces": Both Tommy Lee Jones AND Aaron Eckhart APPEAR in this flick.

2) "Sppechless" also known as "World's Finest": Christopher Reeves and Michael Keaton together in the same flick. I don't need to say anything else.