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Post by A.G. on Aug 25, 2005 2:14:31 GMT -5
You know dude, with the whole thing going on with the Snake Soup, I'm really dissapointed to find that you don't have my back.
You've been a member of MGF for how many years now? And mod to boot! Yet when this board was hacked and I tried warning the Soup about it, you stayed silent. When they all turned and disregarded me, you stood silent. And hell, even when I tryed to explain the situation to them after the place was hacked, you stayed silent.
Now the finger pointing is starting after Ravi FINALLY admited that the place was indeed hacked. And gee, they still wonder who it could be. Hell, one of them is pointing the finger at me now. And still, during all that all you can say is "AG, you should just stick to MGF".
What the hell gives? You witness first hand all the problems, you've been around [creepy little bastard] on 3 different forums... Why don't you say something? They might actually listen to you since you are full pledge member there. You stand by silently while that board spits in my face for trying to do a good deed for them. Why?
I mean, omega13, or whatever the hell his name is... actually has a problem with me deleting [creepy little bastard]. After all the sh*t and all the obvious writing on the wall, they still wonder who it could be... Why don't you say something?
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Post by The Dumpster Keeper on Aug 25, 2005 3:38:38 GMT -5
Jeez, I didn't know all of this was happening. Econs, what's your problem?
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Post by Otty on Aug 25, 2005 7:07:59 GMT -5
Get off your lazy ass lieutenant Econs.
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Post by Econs on Aug 25, 2005 10:38:59 GMT -5
Look, I don't like [creepy little bastard] just as much as any of you. I've done my best to get rid of him here. I've banned IP and names and Emails... BUT WHAT ELSE CAN I DO?! That's what I can do here, and over at the soup, I enforce rules. That's it. There is no rule at either forum that "No hacking is allowed." So why complain?
I'm not on their side, i'm not on [creepy little bastard]s' side, but complaining and whining till im blue in the mouth is pointless. It doesn't get anything accomplished. So I stayed on the sidelines. I stayed out of a silly quabble that I didn't control, or had no control over. And over there, [creepy little bastard] was no problem. Sure, about 3/4 of everyone over there hated him, but it's not like he did anything ban worthy.
Now that you had power over there and got rid of him, and had a little revenge, I'M THE BAD GUY?! I am a lowly mod! I can ban and enforce rules here, and there, I just enforce rules. This was a problem between you and him, now for some random reason, I'm in trouble because I didn't say anything?
Look, I told Ravi that all of the sudden you had mod powers, and you know what he told me? That he gave you powers just to see what would happen, how everyone over there would take it, as a prank. That's what he told me. I told him and he didn't give a sh*t! I said something and Ravi just didn't care. In all actuallity, Ravi doesn't care about that site.
So, here's a bit of a summary. You get powers over there, I don't complain till i'm blue in the mouth as, knowing Ravi as apathetic as he is just wouldn't care, you get revenge on [creepy little bastard], and I, of all people, am the bad guy, because I didn't say anything. But now look, your over there defending your ass, but look, they dont care. You may not be a full pledge member, but your trustworthy. Anything I would have or could have said, they would just brush of thier shoulder because they don't care.
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Post by A.G. on Aug 25, 2005 12:19:20 GMT -5
I don't want you to get into any fights with anyone. But a simple, statement to cinfirm that what I said was true would be nice. Espcially given the fact the Soup members started to bash me after I was trying to help.
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Post by Econs on Aug 25, 2005 13:19:55 GMT -5
What do you want me to do? Go on the soup and say "[creepy little bastard] admitted to deleting multiple accounts at MGF"? I dont see what that has to do with the soup. It be be like me going on planet mgs or TUS, joining thier forums, and telling people who dont know about [creepy little bastard] or care about MGF and saying "[creepy little bastard] admitted to deleting multiple accounts at MGF"
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Post by A.G. on Aug 25, 2005 13:38:20 GMT -5
Except [creepy little bastard] was an active member on the Soup and miraculesly the place just got hacked.
But whatever. If you don't see why I was upset about this then there isn't any point for me to keep arguing.
It makes no difference really. I'm no planning on posting at the Soup anymore. If that place goes down, GOOD. If it was [creepy little bastard] or even someone else, I really hope they do it again. It's clear to me that the Soup doesn't give a sh*t about what happens to it. That's a sign of a community that shouldn't be around. Next time the hacker will do more than just make me an admin. Maybe then you guys will pay some attention.
Besides, the issue isn't about you doing anything. The issue what that in the very least you could've said something to back me up. Anything. But that didn't happen.
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Post by Otty on Aug 25, 2005 14:56:21 GMT -5
Alright, I see. But Econs, you didn't know [creepy little bastard] was an active member there? People started to suspect AG from hacking that place, you could at least tell them it was [creepy little bastard] who also causes trouble here at our home base.
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Post by A.G. on Aug 25, 2005 15:14:14 GMT -5
That's fine, really. He doesn't want to loose respect of that incredibly delightful bunch at the Snake Soup. You gotta do what you gotta do. I can respect that.
I really am getting sick of the whole forum scene. A change is in dire need. I'm sick of all the BS comming from every direction. It's not worth it.
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Post by ipoder on Aug 28, 2005 15:14:53 GMT -5
AG, now this is why don't really want to become a mod or even administrate my own forum.
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Post by The Mad Jackyl on Aug 29, 2005 8:18:14 GMT -5
Just don't take things so seriously, Arsenal. When the forum is hacked, that's a pain in the butt, but when it comes to how people treat you online, you need to stop worrying about that. It's really a small problem.
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Post by Otty on Aug 29, 2005 10:16:36 GMT -5
But it is when you're a site owner and you don't want to give it a bad name. See, AG represents MGF. So if people call him a dick at the Soup because of something he didn't do then it's damage for MGF.
At least that's the way I see it.
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Post by ipoder on Aug 31, 2005 22:53:51 GMT -5
You know AG, in the "Small Site Update" thread you praised Econs alittle since made the MGF article on Wilkpedia. Now your saying you got an issue? No offense on anyone, I'm just pointing stuff out.
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